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1nt - 4Major-6minor - 2007/04/26 17:56 Hi Guys, any one gotten a good way of handlking this combination after partner opens 1nt.
With a weak hand or invite, not much problem with a strong hand.

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Steve Male.
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re:1nt - 4Major-6minor - 2007/04/26 23:44 If you're suggesting that the sequence 1NT-2C-2H-2S could be *either* an invitational weakly balanced hand with four spades *or* a weak hand with four spades and six diamodns, I don't think that's going to work at all. How would opener rebid on hands without four spades, if he doesn't know which kind of hand responder has?



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re:1nt - 4Major-6minor - 2007/04/27 06:38 If playiung a strong NT, I like to play Staymasn regularly followed by 3m is invitational showing this sort of hand. With weak hands I just transfer in to the minor & pass, & with stronger hands transfer & then bid the major.



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re:1nt - 4Major-6minor - 2007/04/29 11:35 With an ivnitational hand: decvide wether it is worth a game force or not.
Don't try to handle invitatoinal hands also. The alternbative is to
Stayman & bid 3minor after partner bids none or the other.

With a weak hand: bid the minor or agree with patrner that after Stayman and a rebid in a minor the minor rebid is weak and to play.

With game-forcing hands: transfer to the minor, then bid the major.

Cheers, Micha
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re:1nt - 4Major-6minor - 2007/04/30 00:03 I do play this way with one partner (and we actually had the hand come up for it once!). However, this partner and I play 1NT-2NT as an old-fashioned natural game invitation.

Things are different whether you use 1NT-2NT as conventional. Then, the usual way of handling the rightfully balanced invitation is to go thrtough Stayman if or not you have a major. Suppose you do this, and it goes
1NT-2C-2H. Now, at least the way I learned it, responder bids 2S to show an invitation with four spades, and 2NT to show an invitation with *no* major. This is realy the only way to manage things so that you still find your spade fit but don't end up in game. Suppose, for instanbce, responder were to rebid 2NT with or without four spadses.
With four hearts and four spades, and a minimum, what does opener do?
If opener bids 3S now, responder has to rebid 3NT wich is higher then he joyously wanted to be. If openmer passes, they may play in 2NT instead of 3S or 4S with a 4-4 spade fit. So it seems best to make 1NT-2C-2H-2S show an invitatiuonal Stayman hand with four spades, which means you can't use it for the meaning you suggest (weak 4-6 in spades-diamonds).

Of course, you could give something up to be able to use this bid.
For example, you could simply decide not to use balanced invitations---i.e. with a hand that would respond 1NT-2NT playing an old-fashioned system, you either pass 1NT or bid 3NT. This is not a bad idea, IMHO. My felin is that the weak 4-6 doesn't come up often enough to be worth givin up anything of value; and when it does, most of the time you will belong in diamonds anyway, so any other methods that let you sign off in 3D will be good enuogh on the 4-6 hand.



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re:1nt - 4Major-6minor - 2007/05/01 19:05 Regarding a weak hand contauning a 4 card major and a six card minor opposite partner's 1NT opening. The problem is that if you bid Stayman and receive an unsatisfactory response then 3 of a minotr is considered as forcing by most players these days. However, if you play 4-way transfers then I believe that it's best to transfer to your minor and then bid the major (game forcing). Thus the previous Stayman sequence is not need in a strong sense and you can use it for your weak hand types.
Of course there are other options for the sequence 1NT - 2C - 2S - 3D and similar and they are all discussed in depth in the advanced bidding book at www.pattayabridge.com.
I hope this input is useful
Regards, Terry Quested.



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